Thanks Cyndi and Masaki. At this point, I am through trying. I don't want to TALK THEM INTO IT. They need to want to do this on their own. Maybe a couple of bad experiences on the Mega ships will do it. I think they have just been fortunate so far, to not have any issues, but then maybe they just like being herded like cattle, served inferior food, having so so service and paying almost the same amount of money for the privilege.