Richard, on this board, we don't need GHWBush and Bill Clinton. You are doing very well! Yes, I agree we all should give if that is our personal choice. I have done so, and plan to do again as events unfold. I have also encouraged my somewhat-grown children to do so. They reap the bounty from this area not from tourism, but from fishermen, and not just in Thailand, but from Indonesia and India, areas even harder hit. Important in those areas to get people back on their feet with boats, etc. so the survivors can start to make a living again. All those relief agencies know how best to spend the dollars we contribute.