John is asking: I hate this, b/c as a man I should know how to obtain this information. We're thinking about a new car, does anyone know of websites that give the bottom line MSRP (for free)? I'd like to know when we try to negotiate for the BMW Z8. The sticker is over $120K, but I think I could get it for $119K :D :D . Seriously, looking at the Z4. Thanks.
