OK I have bored so many people with this story - we have been at a volleyball tournament for 2 days in Jacksonville - granddaughter from Gainesville, Fl plays on an incredible "young" traveling team girls are ages 10-12 - have 2 or 3 ten yrs olds who are little itty skinny things - they beat all the 12-14 girls in the state of Florida today - some of the 14 yr girls were 5'10" etc - my granddaugher is their star server and spiked the winning point when game was 23-24 - now on to the big games in Orlando - sorry if boring but boy we had great weekend!!!