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I believe that India is the only Visa you need to get in advance. The others Regent will obtain for you and charge to your on board account if you didn't get them in advance.
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Lauri, thanks!
One more question, is yellow fever vaccination mandatory? It says in one of the emails we have received but I thought we had previously discussed and found out it was not required.
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
[Re: Mrs. Marc]
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09/14/14 07:02 PM
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Yes, it is my understanding Marc that you need the Yellow Fever shot OR a letter from a doctor stating your health prevents you from taking it. I also vaguely remember it not being mandatory but now it is mandatory. Rules are always changing. Now if you fly to South Africa via Dakar you have to have it even if they do not open the plane doors!!
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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09/14/14 09:38 PM
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As far as I can tell the Yellow Fever vaccine is required. I got mine at Walgreens, it wasn't terribly expensive but wow, did it hurt! Gave me a pretty nasty red, swollen, painful welt on my arm for about a week.
At least I won't get yellow fever though.
Lauri
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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Lauri, I saw my doctor today and asked about the yellow fever vaccine. She said only one doctor in Huntsville does them and it is $100 to see him and $130 for the shot. The Health Department doesn't do them anymore. Did you really just go to Walgreens? Did you have to have a prescription (knowing that you have easy access!!) I am wondering if it would be worth it to get it done somewhere else easier and less expensive since I am going to be traveling to a couple of other states before the trip. Anyone else look into this yet?
Arlene
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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We had Yellow Fever shot when we went to Kenya many years ago. The only pain was the price! No side effects, fortunately.
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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09/16/14 06:20 PM
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Mrs Marc: Norman D Ervin M.D. 101 Bob Wallace, Suite B. 256-533-2303. gave me a Yellow Contraindication to Vaccination (yellow international certificate Card) because of my age and chronic illness! Charged for the visit but not the shot!
David
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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When my son had to get his yellow fever shot for a trip to Ghana, he went to the visiting nurses association here in tulsa. They give all the vaccines for wherever you are going, plus they check the malaria prophylaxis recommendations and supply that or any other meds (Cipro for instance). Don't know where else they are located, but in tulsa, they are the place to go for travel meds.
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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Rachel, that is nice to know. Several years ago when I needed YF shot, I found the health department no longer does them, so I had to go to Passport Health as referred. I can't remember how expensive it was at the time, but no small price.
Once, PPH strongly recommended one shot that was not required, and she paid for it. She pressed it later, and when she made her case that it wasn't required, they refunded.
These vaccines confuse me. Some years ago, living in another city, I took same daughter to the ER for an intestinal problem, which for a 4th child, is unusual, the doctor did some blood tests, and came and told me she had Hepatitis, omg, it took me 5 minutes until I realized she just was vaccinated by her school for Hep.
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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09/17/14 11:03 AM
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There are several types of hepatitis. Some have vaccines (A and B). Hepatitis just means inflammation of the liver, not all are due to viruses.
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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10/10/14 06:13 PM
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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10/10/14 07:11 PM
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I hope I'll be dancing soon!
The whole shore excursion thing has been a total mess. Let's hope the actual excursions are better.
Lauri
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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We got our docs several days ago. Didn't check the excursions, maybe I should....
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Re: Roll Call for SPICE
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I'm dancing! 
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email today confirming ALL my tours and also one that was waitlisted: "Coco Island Snorkeling Adventure" Dec. 7. Hope it's not too adventurist!
Tours mostly 2.5 to 4.5 hours with a couple 5.5 hours! I don't like to be too long away from Mother Ship..
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Re: SPICE
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10/20/14 06:36 AM
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Happy Dancing everyone. Have a great trip.
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Re: SPICE
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10/20/14 07:45 PM
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Just found out today I can't have the yellow fever vaccine. I am curious as to how many are getting a waiver letter versus getting the shot? Looking at the itinerary, the only place we are ever in danger is during the safari to Tsavo East; easy enough to wear long sleeves and lots of repellant for one day.
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Re: SPICE
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10/21/14 07:45 AM
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Got to have one or the other or they may not let you sail. I was in South America with a client who decided the risk of yellow fever was really zero and thought they would not do anything about it once she was there.
She boarded the ship and she had a choice. Take the shot immediately or disembark. The ship had a few shots on board for an emergency like this but if they did not have them she would have been disembarked for sure. She was furious but honestly they made it clear it was mandatory.
Another client in the last few months lost his yellow official booklet with the yellow fever shot recorded. He got a letter from the clinic stating he had the shot. In fact all kinds of official documentation. This was all denied he had to have the shot again and get his little official yellow booklet.
Logic often has no place in these rules but they are requirements.
Another issue like this is that passports actually expire 6 months before the expiration date printed on the passport. I assume this to ensure if anything happens to a person while overseas they will still have a valid passport for six month to re-enter the country.
However so many people do not understand that rule and try fighting the date of expiration on the passport is valid. It happens with great regularity that people refuse to get a new passport as their passport clearly shows an expiration date of XXXX and therefore they can use it. Of course eventually they figure it all out but it causes so much confusion.
There should be a statement somewhere in the passport that covers this issue that people can read and understand.
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Re: SPICE
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Excellent advice Ngaire. Here's a CDC link discussing Yellow Fever vaccine waivers. ( Yellow Fever Waivers ) It sounds more involved than simply getting a medical waiver letter from a GP or Internist.
Dave
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Bureaucracies! The BANE of civilization.
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Re: SPICE
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10/21/14 06:49 PM
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Now that is really important information!!
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Excellent advice Ngaire. Here's a CDC link discussing Yellow Fever vaccine waivers. ( Yellow Fever Waivers ) It sounds more involved than simply getting a medical waiver letter from a GP or Internist. Dave, this was what I was afraid of. My doctor probably doesn't have the yellow fever stamp but the infectious disease doctor that has the stamp doesn't know my medical records. It looks like i am going to need to have my doctor fax records to the second doctor and I am going to need to go in and pay him a $100 for the stamped letter and counseling.  I think I will call Regent tomorrow to find out exactly what "they" need to let me on the ship. edited to add: I just saw on WHO website that once in a lifetime is enough; no need for booster after ten years. Since i was vaccinated in 1983, and I still have the original booklet, i might be in the clear.  I will call Regent tomorrow to confirm.
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I just have to remember keep that Yellow Fever certificate with my Passport. I had to completely renew my passport lately, not enough pages. So now that I have it back, I am going to expedite and pay extra to get the Indian visa safely on time.
One question on the application, about local contact I'm going to look back for here on this thread. I think that question was asked before, early in the thread.
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Ventours
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Mumbai (Bombay) 400 021, India
Tel: 22040910 & 2285 5793
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haha, Mark, I just went through this entire thread to find that! I should have known you would come up with it. Reading all this makes me nervous!
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My husband and I are on Azamara quest and have several overlaps with you Spicers! We overnight in Mumbai from nov 26 until 930 pm on the 27th. We are in Cochin from November 30 overnight until 1030 pm on dec 1 and we are in Male from 7 am until 8 pm on dec 3. Hope to run into some of you somewhere, wear your pins so I will know its you!
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haha, Mark, I just went through this entire thread to find that! I should have known you would come up with it. Reading all this makes me nervous!
I've NEVER been good on the small print - no patience for it! Only ONE of my failings.
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We will Helen….I am hoping to finally meet you!
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Re: SPICE
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Another detail on Yellow Fever Issues
South Africa’s new yellow fever law extends to travelers flying to South Africa via yellow fever designated countries, even if they do not deplane. This could be a particular nuisance for travelers from the United States, whose flight itineraries often include refueling stops in Accra, Ghana or Dakar, Senegal; many passengers are often unaware of these refueling stops, because they are not required to change seats, and both legs of the itinerary have the same flight number. The new provision also includes rare instances when a plane makes an unscheduled landing in a yellow fever designated country, so it may be a good idea for travelers to go ahead and obtain a yellow fever vaccination prior to travel, if only to guard against any potential flight difficulties. In addition, all travelers must carry their original yellow fever vaccination cards; immigration inspectors generally do not accept letters, scans, copies, etc. as valid documents. Yellow fever vaccinations are no longer administered at South African ports of entry for the purpose of entering the country. The policy requires travelers to obtain a yellow fever vaccination at least 10 days prior to arrival in South Africa
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I called Regent today. Even though WHO now says once is enough, Regent said that the vaccination had to be within last ten years (probably because one or more of the countries still has this archaic rule). As for physician letter, Regent said it could be from my regular doctor and did not have to be on the ICVP as CDC indicated on the link posted by Dave. I sure hope i get to board.
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I had never heard the ONCE IS ENOUGH before. Things I have read have said a booster shot every 10 years.
If that was what Regent said they will let you board for sure. HOWEVER I am going to check that detail again as often misinformation can happen when you call and get a representative. If we get that cleared then you should be fine. The different criteria may depend on the countries you visit and the likelihood of you contracting yellow fever and I think that the chance on a cruise ship is very small.
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Yes I understood but it was the first time I had heard anything other than every 10 years. I read the article and it seems no matter what WHO thinks the countries still require the once every 10 years program and CDC recommends that also. Be nice if they would all come around to the same conclusion WHO did.
Key Points
The World Health Organization (WHO) recently announced that booster doses of yellow fever vaccine are no longer necessary. However, CDC has not changed the recommendation that US travelers receive booster doses of yellow fever vaccine every 10 years if traveling to an area with risk of exposure to yellow fever virus. Furthermore, the International Health Regulations (IHR) have not changed, and booster doses are still needed if yellow fever vaccination is required for entry into a particular country.
We had the shot at Walgreens, quick and painless and no reaction of any kind whatsoever. I know that is not the same for everyone but for both us a piece of cake and now we are good for another ten years. Still amazes me that Walgreens does that shot. Just walk in and get it done. SO easy. Last time we had to drive about an hour north to just find a health clinic that would do it.
I instigated a follow up with Regent operations to confirm that a note from your regular doctor will suffice. It is not really what "Regent" requires but the requirement of the countries you will be visiting. Those are the guidelines Regent follow.
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My sweet husband got me some UAE dirhams from our bank so I don't have to worry about finding an ATM or exchanging money when I get to Dubai late at night.
Three weeks until I leave, I can't wait! Everyone keep your fingers crossed that Lufthansa's pilots don't pull another strike and mess up my travel plans.
Lauri
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Three weeks until I leave, I can't wait! Everyone keep your fingers crossed that Lufthansa's pilots don't pull another strike and mess up my travel plans.
Or, that Air France pilots go back out on strike. Arlene got shots in both arms today; I think we are ready to leave. Oh year; we have to pack. BTW, we end up in London for three days after Spice; we will be the only ones onboard with winter jackets, gloves, and ear muffs. :)
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I made my first attempt at getting things organized for packing. I have no idea how to pack for a trip this long. Get ready for lots of black clothes repeated over and over at dinner...
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Just three weeks to go!!!
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My sweet husband got me some UAE dirhams from our bank so I don't have to worry about finding an ATM or exchanging money when I get to Dubai late at night.
Three weeks until I leave, I can't wait! Everyone keep your fingers crossed that Lufthansa's pilots don't pull another strike and mess up my travel plans. Lauri well, I don't have one of those SH/DH persons, (and best I don't for their sakes) so I will have to find an ATM when I arrive at 11:05 pm. . Eagerly anticipating this nice long cruise with so many I know well, and others I hope to know better. So many new ports! Anxiety will be relieved when that Indian visa and my renewed passport are back into my hands. The passport is now in the DC Indian embassy/consulate since October 30, and will be there only 7 business days, so I'm confident I am okay. Still........
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Were you the witch on Halloween?
(I went as the Grumpy Old Man - gave the urchins apples.)
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